Question
My wife and are expecting our Non lucrative Spain visa approval end of this month. My question, is it easy to go through the second part of the process (Padron,TIE….) without a lawyer in Spain?
Answers
These are the answers of some Facebook group members:
”Nope it’s awful virtually not doable without help. I have friends here currently trying”
“While I managed the first TIE process myself, the main challenge was the language barrier. Many officials in Spanish immigration and town halls seemed unwilling to communicate in English. This led to difficulties in getting necessary documents like the padron, as they gave up trying to assist when I spoke English.
In contrast to other countries where officials at least attempt to communicate in English, in Spain, they often seemed disinterested. Due to these experiences, I’ve decided to always hire a gestor for future dealings with authorities to ensure smoother transactions.”
”Once here you ll be fine , I did it in Malaga and I didn’t even have a Padron when I landed (hardest part was getting a lease and then the Padron) you don’t seem to need that as an owner”
”It is worse.
1. Bring an old extra phone from the US and 1st thing get a Spanish mobile phone number. Lobster, Vodafone, Orange or Movistar, didn’t matter. You activate your US eSIM on a modem phone and leave your sim card slot free for the Spanish one or just being a second phone.
2. Get an appointment for the padron at the town hall. You will need a housing contract, the tax information for the landlord, a utility bill, a receipt for your rent, a Spanish bank account, apostilled birth certificates for kids, copies of your passport and maybe more!
3. Get a Spanish bank account. BBVA or N26 seem “easiest”. We spent 4 hours to get an account at cajamar with an amazing clerk. Bring your tax and financial records from your NLV. You need an account to make payments for government agencies and get forms. Like the 790 on the NLV.
4. Hire a helper for the TIE. YOU NEED 26mm x 32mm passport photos that are smaller. Ignore the link from the consulate about police stations you need to go to immigration and also get fingerprints”
“A gestor should get you an appointment quicker than trying yourself. Without Spanish you may want help with the first visit. The collection you should be able to do yourself.”
In conclusion, According to Spainguru Facebook group members, it seems that navigating the second part of the immigration process in Spain (which includes obtaining a Padron, TIE, etc.) without a lawyer can be quite challenging.
The common issues highlighted include language barriers, as local officials often do not communicate in English, and the complexity of bureaucratic procedures. While one person managed to handle the first TIE on their own, they encountered difficulties when officials at the town hall were reluctant to communicate in English.
Another individual suggested that with proper preparation, such as having a Spanish phone number and bank account, the process could be manageable, but emphasized the need for a gestor, or administrative helper, for certain steps like obtaining the TIE.
The responses suggest that while it is not impossible to go through the process without a lawyer, having professional assistance or at least a gestor could significantly alleviate the stress and potential issues arising from language and bureaucratic complexities.
