Question
Non lucrative Spain visa question: I just got back from my consulate here in Germany and he would not accept my lump sum of 30,000 euros as proof of financial means. He said it needs to be in a form of a monthly income (which is stupid because its the same as getting all that money at once)Anybody know of a way I can convert my lump sum into monthly payments? im not yet retired nor have enough to get dividends that much
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These are the answers of some Facebook group members:
“They don’t usually reject savings and demand income. However, it depends on several variables and it could be that he was really querying your ability to live in Spain with a small amount of savings and no income. You aren’t allowed to work or become a burden on the state, after all. A lot will depend on your age. If you will shortly be receiving a pension then they will generally accept a lower amount than if you’re younger.”
“sounds crazy. get a lawyer they are very reasonable in Spain. Maybe because you could drain your account the minute you have res.”
“I think its because the NLV is mainly for retired people and I guess theres not a lot of people applying from the german consulate that he had enough experience”
“There is no requirement in law that your financial means come from regular income. Now that the application is in, one could submit some arguments to that effect so that they’re on the record prior to a potential appeal.”
“Can someone write a formal notarized document, stating they will depost $2500 into X account every month… ? That’s a solution”
“They’re just harder on younger people because of the way the law (which hasn’t kept up with the times) is written. It’s shockingly dumb how they reject people who do have sufficient recurring income from remote work due to the notion that it’s supposed to be a “non-lucrative” visa.About the only thing I can offer is that it seems that at least a few people have been able to structure their business in such a way that they present it to the consulate as something they *own* and just passively receive money from (even though the person is actually actively engaged in working on the business).If you can do that- add in your recurring income from your business but in a way that makes it seem like you’re basically a trust fund kid living off something that, I dunno, your parents gave you- then you probably have higher odds of success.”
“Maybe your 30,000 is too close to the required 27,000 iPrem that’s why he’s asking for monthly income? When I consulted a lawyer last year they said we needed to show at least 42,000 in savings even though the required iPrem was 36,000.During our appointment, she still questioned us even though our bank accounts had more than the advised 42,000.Can you write a notarized letter that says aside from the 30k, you will be taking a sabbatical and receiving passive income from your business? That’s what we did because we also aren’t retirement age and that gave our consul peace of mind.”
“As the NLV visa doesn’t allow you to work they will be looking for how you will be able to support yourself.Savings will quickly dwindle if you have no regular income. With the visa you will need to prove money for year 2 and year 3.As savings will dwindle, i can see why they are asking particularly If you are not just a few years away from receiving a regular payment from a pension.”
In conclusion, this Spainguru community member’s experience with the non lucrative Spain visa application process in Germany highlights the consulate’s preference for a monthly income as proof of financial means, even though savings are typically accepted. While this approach may seem unusual, it underscores the importance of demonstrating the ability to support oneself without becoming a financial burden on the Spanish state. The responses from Spainguru’s Facebook group members members suggest various potential solutions, including consulting with an immigration expert, providing a notarized letter explaining the financial situation, or structuring business income in a way that aligns with the consulate’s requirements. Ultimately, the process may vary based on age and individual circumstances, emphasizing the need for tailored strategies in navigating the visa application process.
