Has anyone done a Non lucrative visa Spain transition to Golden Visa Spain?

Question

Non lucrative visa Spain to Golden Visa Spain transition: I am a US citizen who wants to move to Spain next year under the NLV with the hope to transition into the Golden Visa, and goal to obtain the Permanent Residency in Spain at the end of 5 years holding the visa.

I have been trying to work out the scenarios but am not sure if this would work. Please help answer my questions and clear my mind. Thanks so much. Here we go, my long list of questions:

  • Can my residency time holding the NLV be counted towards to the 183+ days which is required for Golden Visa holder when time comes to apply for Permanent Residency 5 years later? I plan to transition into Golden Visa hopefully soon within my first year living under NLV.
  • What’s the minimum amount of days one needs to reside in Spain under NLV yearly? Is that requirement based on consecutive or accumulative basis? In other words, can I travel in and out of Spain?
  • Same question as #2, is the 183 days minimum requirement for Golden Visa holder counted on a consecutive or accumulative basis?
  • When I receive the Permanent Residency status after 5 years (hopefully), how can I bring my spouse and my adult child (age 27 then) over to Spain to live with me? Is there a “fast track” for direct family members of a Permanent Resident?

Answers

These are the answers of some Facebook group members:

“1. Yes. 2. 6 months cumulative from the date of your arrival. 3. Golden Visa has no such requirements technically but to qualify for long term residency after five years you need to have been out of Spain for no more than 10 months in those first five years. 4. You can do family reunification but they won’t automatically get long term residency. Only after five years will they achieve that.”

“These are great questions. Probably better to ask an attorney but they don’t always have the answers, or you’ll get different answers from each one. We got Residence Permits (Golden Visa) in Spain just recently. I’ll take a stab at your answers based on what little I know, but consult a pro.
1) yes. I think residency time is what matters, not how you got it.
2) 183+ days to keep residency but if you want permanent residency at 5 years you’ll need to be out of Spain no more than 10 months total. Accumulative basis. Spain doesn’t care when you come or go.
3) cumulative.
4) if you have the residence permit (golden visa) you can add a spouse and kids. I think a 27 year old adult child wouldn’t be allowed to tack onto your residency unless they are dependent, and maybe not even then as the rules typically state 18 years old as the limit. Same with parents – you can add them if they are dependent. Check out family reunification

“After their 21 birthday you can only try to get family reunification with your son if he is totally dependent on you either financially and this has to be proven or let’s say he had a severe handicap where you as his parent has to be together with him.”

In summary, Spainguru’s Facebook group members stated that the residency time holding the NLV can be counted towards the 183+ days required for the Golden Visa when applying for Permanent Residency 5 years later. The minimum amount of days one needs to reside in Spain under NLV was reported as 6 months cumulative from the date of arrival. They mentioned that the Golden Visa doesn’t have such requirements technically but to qualify for long-term residency after five years, one need to have been out of Spain for no more than 10 months in those first five years. When it comes to bringing the spouse and adult child to Spain after receiving the Permanent Residency status, it can be done through family reunification but they won’t automatically get long-term residency, Only after five years, they would achieve that. Some advised that it is better to ask an attorney for more information.

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